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. >>> plus, michigan's right to work, a cosmic close shave and an update for you on that little guy, the ikea monkey in canada. >>> but first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and the hustle and bustle of the holiday season took a terrifying turn in portland, oregon, yesterday, when a masked gunman stormed into a busy shopping mall and opened fire, killing two people, injuring another before apparently turning the gun on himself. nbc's kirk gregory has the chilling details. >> reporter: a day of holiday shopping turned into a horrific afternoon of terror when a gunman opened fire inside a crowded suburban portland mall. >> we started receiving calls at 3:30, multiple 911 calls. we responded quickly. >> reporter: several store employees locked themselves in break rooms and bathrooms until police could arrive. >> many people locked in place, many people ran. those are the two most appropriate things to do in these circumstances. >> reporter: shaken family members waited anxiously for news as police worked to secure the mall and search for victims. >> i just want to hug her and i
. >>> plus, michigan's right to work, a cosmic close shave and an update for you on that little guy, the ikea monkey in canada. >>> but first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and the hustle and bustle of the holiday season took a terrifying turn in portland, oregon, yesterday, when a masked gunman stormed into a busy shopping mall and opened fire, killing two people, injuring another before apparently turning the gun on himself. nbc's kirk gregory has the chilling...
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the fight now has moved to michigan. they are angry over the expect expected passage of a new law demanding dues from workers. that has them angry. happy monday, everybody. bill: how was the weekend. martha: weekend was good. it was like we got the tree up. it barely fits in the living room but that's okay. bill: michigan workers back to work, tomorrow, tuesday, the first order of business is the final votes on the law and off to the governor's desk. he has said he will sign it into law but critics day it's an assault on workers rights. have a listen here. >> this legislation isn't about anything except an attack on workers' rights and roll people back from what we fought for for generations. >> i view this as solving and issue for michigan workers. this is about giving workers choice. we have hard workers in michigan. martha: here we go. john fund is national affairs columnist for the national review. welcome. good morning to you. it's very interesting when you watch what some would call market forces, changing the dyna
the fight now has moved to michigan. they are angry over the expect expected passage of a new law demanding dues from workers. that has them angry. happy monday, everybody. bill: how was the weekend. martha: weekend was good. it was like we got the tree up. it barely fits in the living room but that's okay. bill: michigan workers back to work, tomorrow, tuesday, the first order of business is the final votes on the law and off to the governor's desk. he has said he will sign it into law but...
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unemployment in michigan is 9%. you know, across the country, we've got the number earlier today 7.7%. you could argue the second number you see on the screen now. detroit's unemployment rate, 18.9%. >> right. bill: detroit's population is at its lowest level in more than 100 years. that is really a story you could follow throughout the entire rust belt. detroit population last year, 706,000. you know what it was in 1950? 1.8 million. rick snyder is trying to do try to draw some of this business back here and get numbers back up. matt that goes to the point you were making there. that union worker we just heard, the woman, african-american woman, what this means you can work alongside a union member and not pay union dues and still get the benefits of the union. now, steve, is she right? >> no, she's wrong. look, i think it is in the first amendment of our constitution says the right of association, right? you have the right to associate with a union if you want to but, right of association also means you have the r
unemployment in michigan is 9%. you know, across the country, we've got the number earlier today 7.7%. you could argue the second number you see on the screen now. detroit's unemployment rate, 18.9%. >> right. bill: detroit's population is at its lowest level in more than 100 years. that is really a story you could follow throughout the entire rust belt. detroit population last year, 706,000. you know what it was in 1950? 1.8 million. rick snyder is trying to do try to draw some of this...
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he is a democrat from michigan. he has been the at forefront of labor issues in that state since the 1960s. he is obviously against what happened in the state government. we'll talk to him a little bit what is next and what does it mean for the transitioning u.s. economy. jon? jon: there are brand new developments, jenna, in the alaska serial killer case. who police say this confessed killer of a young barrista was also targeting and why he never carried out his deadly plan. >>> as a deadly bloody civil war rages in syria, the opposition gets new support from around the wormed and the united states. what president obama just said. and a look how this crisis figures in the foreign policy challenges mr. obama faces in his section term. that is -- second term. that is next. [shouting] having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress
he is a democrat from michigan. he has been the at forefront of labor issues in that state since the 1960s. he is obviously against what happened in the state government. we'll talk to him a little bit what is next and what does it mean for the transitioning u.s. economy. jon? jon: there are brand new developments, jenna, in the alaska serial killer case. who police say this confessed killer of a young barrista was also targeting and why he never carried out his deadly plan. >>> as a...
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the michigan polls show this is a winner for people who with unions. the governors ratings are very mediocre. majority say that after they hear both sides, they are against right to work and 80% say this is not -- this shouldn't be a priority at all. actually, more say they're going to hold it against legislators for voting for it than reward them for it. >> we know what we will be talking about in 2014 in the midwest. we have that clear. we know what this will be about. >> we already had a debate about this early in the year. scott walker -- >> he sort of -- >> it's hard to say the union people will have to be worried right now. >> it does feel as if when this moves, it moves. the question is, can they calibrate on another policy. we asked in the last 100 years how many presidents were elected after serving in the house, but not in the senate. there's just one. president george h.w. bush was a congressman for texas, unsuccessful candidate for the united states senate. then of course he was u.n. ambassador, cia director and vice president before he was
the michigan polls show this is a winner for people who with unions. the governors ratings are very mediocre. majority say that after they hear both sides, they are against right to work and 80% say this is not -- this shouldn't be a priority at all. actually, more say they're going to hold it against legislators for voting for it than reward them for it. >> we know what we will be talking about in 2014 in the midwest. we have that clear. we know what this will be about. >> we...
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it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired. the union said, have you to pay for a union strike in new york, or we will get you fired when i was writing editorials against the strike in new york. so this is the -- it is that kind of coercion, which is coming to an end, everywhere. you heard it right here. the folks in michigan said, we looked at indiana, they are gettingions, businesses are coming in there. that's why we did it. they look south, where are the foreign companies coming? spartanburg, south carolina, bmwar plants, mercedes, tuscaloosa. volkswagen volkswagen, chattanooga, nissan plant. whe
it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired....
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>> take a look at michigan, seen as the center of the labor movement. even the top four union members states could be at risk. at the top you have new york with one in four workers a union member, followed by alaska, hawaii and washington. the number you see on the screen right here, which is the advocacy money, that could be what's changing these traditional union states. according to the nation, we look at those numbers from 2008 to 2011, right to work money was $18 million. pro-union, just $2 million. >> thanks so much. always good to see you. that does it for me. let's go to thomas roberts. >>> good morning, everybody. coming up, we're also touching on the right to work debate. we will talk with a republican chair with the seiu who also leads a union in michigan. we will talk about big labor's plans to fight back in the wake of that devastating setback yesterday in michigan. >>> plus, walking a mile in speaker john boehner's shoes. former speaker denney hastert joining me about boehner's dance with the president on the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>>
>> take a look at michigan, seen as the center of the labor movement. even the top four union members states could be at risk. at the top you have new york with one in four workers a union member, followed by alaska, hawaii and washington. the number you see on the screen right here, which is the advocacy money, that could be what's changing these traditional union states. according to the nation, we look at those numbers from 2008 to 2011, right to work money was $18 million. pro-union,...
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. >> protests over michigan's right to work legislation carried into the night. earlier demonstrators were outside and inside the capitol as michigan's house passed the bill the senate approved earlier. protesters demand the governor veto the bill. >> i appreciate they have a different perspective. but this is the right thing for michigan. it gives workers choice. the workers freedom to choose. i view it as pro-worker. >> the new law means workers don't have to pay union dues while still getting union representation. >> thousands of san jose workers can circle a date on the calendar for what they'll be getting a raise. the city's new minimum wage will go up to $10. that's because of a measure that voters passed. they join only a handful of cities that have their own minimum wage. >> fresh dungeness crab is coming to a store near you. fish brokers wanted to drop the price saying high demand had led to low retail prices. they've agreed to $3 a pound. the local market should start receiving crab on friday. >>> still to come, a pair of secret santas surprise shoppers
. >> protests over michigan's right to work legislation carried into the night. earlier demonstrators were outside and inside the capitol as michigan's house passed the bill the senate approved earlier. protesters demand the governor veto the bill. >> i appreciate they have a different perspective. but this is the right thing for michigan. it gives workers choice. the workers freedom to choose. i view it as pro-worker. >> the new law means workers don't have to pay union dues...
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the governor calls the measures pro-worker and pro-michigan. a democratic lawmaker said passing these bills is, quote, an act of war on michigan's middle class. >>> this might be a sign of times. the pope has entered twitter. i love this picture. i just love it. pope benedict xvi posting his first mess an at the vatican. thank you for your generous response. i bless all of you from my heart. within an hour the pontiff had achieved 700,000 english-speaking followers on his account. his handle if you want to get with the program is @pontfx. >>> get ready for another member of the bush
the governor calls the measures pro-worker and pro-michigan. a democratic lawmaker said passing these bills is, quote, an act of war on michigan's middle class. >>> this might be a sign of times. the pope has entered twitter. i love this picture. i just love it. pope benedict xvi posting his first mess an at the vatican. thank you for your generous response. i bless all of you from my heart. within an hour the pontiff had achieved 700,000 english-speaking followers on his account. his...
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to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the $25 billion price tag on this little-known tax will affect everyone of us. we'll tell you what it is. bill: we'll get back to this tragic mall shooting in oregon. the height of the mall shopping season. inside the mind of a shooter and an update from police on a possible motive this story. >> for all of us the mall is supposed to be a place we can all take our families. feel comfortable this is a great place, especially at the holiday season like this. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop?
to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the...
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we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at most of those jobs aren't going to be unionized and they are going to be good paying jobs. this is all about more and better jobs and good paying jobs. it's going to work in michigan. >> bill: i have got to ask you about detroit which is a city on the verge of collapse. we think mayor dave bing is a good guy. maybe i'm wrong. i don't follow it that closely. detroit has no money. can't pay its bills. who is going to bail out detroit or is the whole structure going to collapse. >> there is not going to be a bailout of detroit in terms of state resources. as a practical matter what the real issue is is
we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at...
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here in michigan or creating a business here in michigan, you now as employees will have the choice whether to join a union or not to join a unit. >> do you have any sort of study to show this is in any way going to enhance the economy of michigan? can you point to other states? has this been a direct impact on their states, their economic viability. >> if you look at indiana, the amount of projects they are about to take and have undertaken have given their people a great tune to provide jobs in their communities. >> why do you think the governor changed his mind on this? a lot of people were talking, a lot of the contracts don't like it because they didn't like the process. it got pushed through quickly, and, b, the governor change the his mine the last couple months. >> the governor locked at it and said this is an opportunity that is here. it's bold. against it's historic because it puts michigan on the map as a place people are going to want to do business. >> why is an opportunity now and not before? >> he asked the leaders to stand down on it and they did not, so i'm not read
here in michigan or creating a business here in michigan, you now as employees will have the choice whether to join a union or not to join a unit. >> do you have any sort of study to show this is in any way going to enhance the economy of michigan? can you point to other states? has this been a direct impact on their states, their economic viability. >> if you look at indiana, the amount of projects they are about to take and have undertaken have given their people a great tune to...
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joining me now, politico executive editor and ron mott live in lansing, michigan. first, you, ron mott, the day after the governor rick snyder has signed the right-to-work bills, what is the labor movement planning to do next? >> well, we don't know, andrea. pretty quiet on that front, much like it is down here on the street. far different scene yesterday, of course, a lot of union workers very upset about not just this legislation that's going to wipe out a 77-year-old requirement that workers be forced to pay union dues as a condition of employment, they are upset also about how this was jammed through the legislature. this was passed in both bodies in four days time and signed by the governor last night. what the advocates of this legislation say is union shops and unions no longer can just depend on fattening up their membership roles by default, they actually have to go out and sell themselves, sell their benefits to the workforce in order to earn those memberships. so we'll see how this all changes. the law will go into effect some time in late march or early
joining me now, politico executive editor and ron mott live in lansing, michigan. first, you, ron mott, the day after the governor rick snyder has signed the right-to-work bills, what is the labor movement planning to do next? >> well, we don't know, andrea. pretty quiet on that front, much like it is down here on the street. far different scene yesterday, of course, a lot of union workers very upset about not just this legislation that's going to wipe out a 77-year-old requirement that...
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demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution. that ballot issue failed in the november election. >> what continued after that is start of the discussion right to work. >> it became a loud and boisterous discussion. so i felt at times in terms of the good leadership to say i didn't want it on my agenda now. it's here. >> demonstrators say working men and women are the subject of political retribution. >> retribution for standing up and fighting for working people. they want to us attack the different groups. they attack us. >> right to work legislation would outlaw the mandatory union due and membership as
demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution....
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thank you. >> now to lansing, michigan. protesters have invaded the michigan state capital over the right to work. >> the unions are on the ropes. [chanting] >> top democrats here in michigan say despite everything you see, despite all the show of force on the lawn forecast capital -- >> i wasn't talking to you. you put your hands on me, see what happens. >> this stage of the fight is really over. [chanting] >> in michigan it's going to play out just like it did in wisconsin. >> we are here to protest against right to work. >> this is giving workers the freedom to choose. >> what time is it? >> union time. >> what time is it? >> union time. >> what time is it. >> union time. >> the so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with the economy, they have everything to do with politics. >> in the end it's a shakedown for political contributions and the democrats do well with unions so they want unions to be really powerful. >> the governor of michigan is one greedy nerd, and he's one weak geek, and we aren't going to t
thank you. >> now to lansing, michigan. protesters have invaded the michigan state capital over the right to work. >> the unions are on the ropes. [chanting] >> top democrats here in michigan say despite everything you see, despite all the show of force on the lawn forecast capital -- >> i wasn't talking to you. you put your hands on me, see what happens. >> this stage of the fight is really over. [chanting] >> in michigan it's going to play out just like it...
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. >> michigan passed controversial right to work laws. we're on top of developing news. >> i'm krystal ball we fight for the right to party. it's a holiday party after the show and we'll be well behaved. >> sort of. >> i'm steve kornacki. i'm a resident party animal. you haven't seen the pictures of the 2002 massachusetts gubernatorial debate watch party. >> what? >> we stand corrected. it's always a party here in "the cycle." >>> developing news this hour. protesters rae main out of michigan's capitol building urging the governor not to sign right to work legislation and barring them from requiring workers to pay union dues as a condition of employment. the state house passed both bills today dealing with private and public sector unions. protesters were shouting "shame on you" from the gallery. michael moore said they're up to 15,000 people at the protest. state senate passed both bills last week and now michigan governor rick snyder says he'll sign them as early as tomorrow. nbc's ron mott is there. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey
. >> michigan passed controversial right to work laws. we're on top of developing news. >> i'm krystal ball we fight for the right to party. it's a holiday party after the show and we'll be well behaved. >> sort of. >> i'm steve kornacki. i'm a resident party animal. you haven't seen the pictures of the 2002 massachusetts gubernatorial debate watch party. >> what? >> we stand corrected. it's always a party here in "the cycle." >>>...
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michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of the union contract. only because of the union contracts. >> bob: c'mon, bob. you can find a video like this. >> bob: i can find it in every right to work state in the south lunch break. >> eric: they'd get fired. >> kimberly: they're not from texas. >> bob: they don't get fired in the south? >> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because th
michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of...
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if you ask the people in michigan a year or two ago would michigan be right to work, said would never happen in our state but it is happening. as more states come right-to-work, isolated states have forced unionism and it will not work. i was making point, remember the famous incident about a year or two ago when boeing moved their facility out of washington state to south carolina and there was all this opposition to doing that. one of the reasons boeing moved to south carolina with that big plant, hundreds of workers was because south carolina is right-to-work state. bill: instead of washington where they were going to make the dreamliner, 787 is union. we saw the fight that ensued after that. after watching pictures in michigan, steve, if you're a politician, you have to have a strong spine to push this through. >> you do. bill: how many do? >> no doubt about it. no doubt about it. by the way i want to tip my hat to the people in the legislature in michigan who stood up to the kind of union thugs who were using violence as a way to prevent this. earlier on fox speaker of the house
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jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have contributed to belcher's actions, he could have made other choices. you cannot save people from themself. bill, what's with the $10 fine for saying cool or awesome on the factor? just applies to staff, darrell. this is a no cliche zone here. we have a bunch of younger people working for us. sometimes the conversation sounds like an episode of american bandstand. the fines go to charity.
jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have contributed to belcher's actions, he could have made other choices. you cannot save people from themself. bill, what's with the $10 fine for saying cool or awesome on the factor? just applies to staff,...
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right now lake michigan is two feet below it's average. why? because of record drought after last summer's record-breaking heat. it's not just the great lakes. if you follow the illinois tributary leading up to lake michigan into feeding into the mississippi, you finally get to st. louis. there is a 180-mile stretch of river that has withered from a thousand feet wide to just a few hundred feet. then a little further down between thebes and eye crow, cairo illinois, there are the pinnacles. they're legendary for boat captains because they had to navigate around them. but now because of the low river levels, it's impossible to pass there. now the army corp of engineers have set to destroy the big rocks in 15. right now senators and house committee members have asked the federal government to make it happen sooner. now thousands of barges are having trouble getting through. now that is a major problem for all of us. those ships bring 8 million tons of grain coal, steal and petroleum down the river every single month. now they're carrying less car
right now lake michigan is two feet below it's average. why? because of record drought after last summer's record-breaking heat. it's not just the great lakes. if you follow the illinois tributary leading up to lake michigan into feeding into the mississippi, you finally get to st. louis. there is a 180-mile stretch of river that has withered from a thousand feet wide to just a few hundred feet. then a little further down between thebes and eye crow, cairo illinois, there are the pinnacles....
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where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios >> 13 employees fired, two suspended without pay for a month. chrysler making no bones about it, these guys broke their rules. megyn: but have their jobs back anyway thanks to the arbitrator who has been taking a look at this dispute. rob is the reporter you just saw in the clip. we're also joined again by dan calabrese. dan, let me ask you, we talked earlier about michigan becoming a right-to-work state which is surprise to many, this is the birthplace of unions. this is the united auto workers. this is detroit. and, you know, there is a question about whether this type of story has gotten into the mind of people in michigan, this and others like it, where they said, you know what? let's open the door
where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios >> 13 employees fired, two suspended without pay for a month. chrysler making no bones about it, these guys broke their rules. megyn: but have their jobs back anyway...
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today i'll be talking to carrie mosse they sell you about protests related to a bill that could turn michigan into a right to work state and also be talking author georgetown university professor a doll as gander about egypt unfinished revolution with only a few weeks left in two thousand and twelve all examine us to offense.
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michigan. but first, we take time out for today's current news update. lisa ferguson's got it out in los angeles. hi, lisa. good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. americans are calling for a major overhaul of the republican party. especially when it comes to the g.o.p.'s pro rich policies. according to a new bloomberg national poll, 87% of people say it's time for some type of change. even support within the republican party is low. only 16% of g.o.p. members think their party is fine the way it is. nbc news "wall street journal" poll shows favorability is slipping. only 30% of those respondents see the party in a positive light. 45% say they don't approve. at issue here is the view of republicans as the party of the rich. voters say it is time to broaden the base and change what they value. some big topics include gay marriage immigration and abortion rights. if republicans are looking to change their stance on abortion, michigan isn't helping much. the state senate there just passe
michigan. but first, we take time out for today's current news update. lisa ferguson's got it out in los angeles. hi, lisa. good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. americans are calling for a major overhaul of the republican party. especially when it comes to the g.o.p.'s pro rich policies. according to a new bloomberg national poll, 87% of people say it's time for some type of change. even support within the republican party is low. only 16% of g.o.p. members think their party...
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they don't have jobs in michigan. do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the amount of money you paid for a car that is paying for pensions of people who retired five years ago that's correct is a do youing state. one of the most beautiful states in the union and that's what happens. >> let me answer your great point. this is true. right now detroit is on the verge of bankruptcy. one of america's great cities. they have lost half their population. can go on the internet. i urge our viewers to go out there. you can buy homes in detroit for a thousand dollars. last time i was there, it was shocking how one boa
they don't have jobs in michigan. do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the...
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i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. we have hard working people in michigan, and this is giving workers choice. >> reporter: now, a point republicans put up front is that this is not targeting collective bargaining, they insist that they are not breaking the unions. all this does is make union dues, union membership optional with the exception of police and firefighters. jon? jon: well, is this fight over? i mean, are democrats in michigan throwing in the towel? >> reporter: no, no, not by a long shot. bob mccann says to say that this will face legal challenges is an understatement. to start with, they will challenge the manner in which this legislation was pushed through so rapidly in the lame duck session, the fact that demonstrators were kept out of the chambers, the fact that police were called in. democrats claim republicans have pulled every trick in the book. >> these guys have lied to us every step of the way, and they're acting like cowards by pushing this through in the dark of night in lame duck. >> he says t
i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. we have hard working people in michigan, and this is giving workers choice. >> reporter: now, a point republicans put up front is that this is not targeting collective bargaining, they insist that they are not breaking the unions. all this does is make union dues, union membership optional with the exception of police and firefighters. jon? jon: well, is this fight over? i mean, are democrats in michigan throwing in the towel? >>...
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the president commented today on the battle over michigan's so-called right to work bill. hundreds of demonstrators showed up at the state capitol in lansing to protest the measure. it would make it illegal to force workers to join unions or more specifically to pay dues. supporters say it will bring more jobs to the state but opponents say non-union workers will end up getting union benefits for free. they claim the real goal is to weaken organized labor. >> these so called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> this is a state issue. indiana did this under governor mitch daniels a couple years ago. they've had some job growth since then. we have to compete. my district is along the state line. we have to compete with them. >> reporter: if it happens, this would be -- michigan would be the 24th state toes pa the law. the house and senate approved their own versions last week. they're set to pass final bill tomorrow. opponents ar
the president commented today on the battle over michigan's so-called right to work bill. hundreds of demonstrators showed up at the state capitol in lansing to protest the measure. it would make it illegal to force workers to join unions or more specifically to pay dues. supporters say it will bring more jobs to the state but opponents say non-union workers will end up getting union benefits for free. they claim the real goal is to weaken organized labor. >> these so called right to work...
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and in michigan. is there in your meetings, is there a strategy for coming back? are these setbacks seen as reversible? >> well, ezra, i see it as a reawake inning of people. dispiriting because the attacks have been so relentless. it's a attacks on workers, on planned parenthood, on immigrants. it's all connected in our minds. so we are reawakening and going to build a powerful movement that we're going to build power in the workplace, build power at the ballot box, build power in the communities. and make it crystal clear that snyder can't get away with this by building a more powerful worker community movement in the state of michigan and rebuilding a middle class, not just in michigan, but all across this country. >> supporters of these laws, i don't really like to call them right-to-work laws, i think it's just framing. but support sayers why should you, if you have been hired by an employer, gm maybe, why should you have to pay to be represented by a union that you didn't vote for and maybe that
and in michigan. is there in your meetings, is there a strategy for coming back? are these setbacks seen as reversible? >> well, ezra, i see it as a reawake inning of people. dispiriting because the attacks have been so relentless. it's a attacks on workers, on planned parenthood, on immigrants. it's all connected in our minds. so we are reawakening and going to build a powerful movement that we're going to build power in the workplace, build power at the ballot box, build power in the...
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want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you are about to say. it's obvious, the tactic from the left are driving me crazy. they are not going to win friends or influence people by that type of behavior or attacking me because i say that the governor is a mild mannered guy. >> bob: you say he is mild mannered. i don't know him. but maybe he is. he signed the bill, refused a signing ceremony. done behind closed doors. >> greg: unlike the healthcare bill. >> eric: it was done absolutely legally. the people of michigan -- >> bob: voters -- no, they did not. >> eric: theyer with lechted. every one o
want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you...
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we'll take you back to michigan as we hear more. obviously a lot of people on both sides debating this today. rick: we're all over that important story. we're also following new developments out of north korea and that country's plan to test a long range rocket. the launch was scheduled to happen any day now. north korea dismantling the rocket to take it off the lawn of pad. is the north caving in to international pressure or could this mean something else entirely. >>> also a kansas family murdered in their homes. the year, 1959. that story brought to live in the chilling crime book. "in cold blood." clues in florida to another family murdered in florida may be tied it this. dr. michael baden looking at brand new developments in a old case. when we come right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ]
we'll take you back to michigan as we hear more. obviously a lot of people on both sides debating this today. rick: we're all over that important story. we're also following new developments out of north korea and that country's plan to test a long range rocket. the launch was scheduled to happen any day now. north korea dismantling the rocket to take it off the lawn of pad. is the north caving in to international pressure or could this mean something else entirely. >>> also a kansas...
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(laughter) we begin tonight in michigan where ten months ago michigan's governor rick snyder -- (laughter). that's dee snyder. duke snyder. that's roy scheider. (laughter). (cheers and applause) that's just a picture of me looking aknowed with this bit. there we go. rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy.
(laughter) we begin tonight in michigan where ten months ago michigan's governor rick snyder -- (laughter). that's dee snyder. duke snyder. that's roy scheider. (laughter). (cheers and applause) that's just a picture of me looking aknowed with this bit. there we go. rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy.
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. >>> so michigan, the cradle of the organized labor movement is now a right to work state. last night, michigan governor rick snyder kept his word and signed the controversial legislation into law, despite thousands of protesters. >> this is an area where obviously people disagree. but i'm confident this is in the best interest of michiganders. this will lead to more and better jobs. >> the legislation means public and private sector workers in michigan won't have to join a union or pay union dues if they choose not to. >>> a massive gas line explosion jolted people in their homes. saying it felt like a plane crash. the 70-foot wall of fire destroyed four homes near charleston, west virginia. five other homes were also damaged. this fire was so intense, you can see it right there. damaged an interstate, several people were treated for smoke inhalation. >>> ravi shankar has died. he passed away tuesday after undergoing heart valve replacement surgery. 92 years old and a legend for 50 years. shankar and george harrison teamed up for the concert for bangladesh. his daughter, s
. >>> so michigan, the cradle of the organized labor movement is now a right to work state. last night, michigan governor rick snyder kept his word and signed the controversial legislation into law, despite thousands of protesters. >> this is an area where obviously people disagree. but i'm confident this is in the best interest of michiganders. this will lead to more and better jobs. >> the legislation means public and private sector workers in michigan won't have to join...
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ten years of reports from the michigan state police showing that very responsible people. we are not the ones to worry about, obviously. because we are the law-abiding folks. >> soledad, if i can break in. >> i'm going to let you hop, in mark. hold on one second, steve. go ahead, we'll give you the final word tonight. >> here's what the national rifle association is doing. we're in fact not worried about people like steve. but please understand that in a number of states in this country, you don't have to have -- you don't have to pass any test, you don't have to know anything about a gun, you don't have to have a background check to carry a concealed weapon. if the nra got its way it would pass its top federal priority which would allow people who could get a permit from any state in the country or didn't have to have a permit, or happen to live in states that hand them out like candy, and they would be able to use that permit to carry a concealed weapon in any city, in any community, in any place in the united states, including new york city and times square, where we ac
ten years of reports from the michigan state police showing that very responsible people. we are not the ones to worry about, obviously. because we are the law-abiding folks. >> soledad, if i can break in. >> i'm going to let you hop, in mark. hold on one second, steve. go ahead, we'll give you the final word tonight. >> here's what the national rifle association is doing. we're in fact not worried about people like steve. but please understand that in a number of states in...
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jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have contributed to belcher's actions, he could have made other choices. you cannot save people from themself. bill, what's with the $10 fine for saying cool or awesome on the factor? just applies to staff, darrell. this is a no cliche zone here. we have a bunch of younger people working for us. sometimes the conversation sounds like an episode of american bandstand. the fines go to charity. ryan from cleveland, tennessee. i am eight years old and watch the factor almost every night. you know what, ryan? i appreciate that very much. so i'm sending you a nice christmas present. hope you enjoy it. finally tonight, the factor tip of the day, as you may know, we raise money for the wounded warrior project and for the fisher house wh
jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have contributed to belcher's actions, he could have made other choices. you cannot save people from themself. bill, what's with the $10 fine for saying cool or awesome on the factor? just applies to staff,...
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that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that's at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills that businesses are looking for right now, and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology and clean energy. i want to put people back to work rebuilding our roads and our bridges and our schools. [applause] that's how we grow an economy. i want us to bring down our deficits, but i want to do it in a balanced, responsible way. and i want to reward -- i want a tax code that rewards businesses and manufacturers like detroit diesel right here, creating jobs right here in redford, right here in michigan, right here in the united states of america. [applause] that's where we need to go. that's the country we need to build. and when it comes to bringing manufacturing back to america -- that's why i'm here today.
that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that's at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills that businesses are looking for right now, and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology and clean energy. i want to put people back to work rebuilding our roads and our bridges...
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this is going to move michigan forward. it's going to move our state forward, allow us to compete for great paying jobs. we believe the uaw, they're going to have to be competitive, they're going to have to earn the dues from those union members and from the people on the line, and it they earn them and they're competitive, they will stay in the union and they will keep their membership. so i think they're up to the task. i think they're up to being xet at this just like everyone else in our society and we look forward to them being more responsive to workers. >> one last question, i know the funding relationship of mr. king as i said he was elected press of an international union with a good reputation. your organization i want to know more about. again, for the fifth time, who pays your salary? >> i told you i work for americans for prosperity. >> who pays your salary? >> i told you, americans for prosperity. >> and who is that? >> that's a nonprofit. we have over 87,000 activists. >> are the koch brothers behind you? jus
this is going to move michigan forward. it's going to move our state forward, allow us to compete for great paying jobs. we believe the uaw, they're going to have to be competitive, they're going to have to earn the dues from those union members and from the people on the line, and it they earn them and they're competitive, they will stay in the union and they will keep their membership. so i think they're up to the task. i think they're up to being xet at this just like everyone else in our...
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in michigan would lose. that number is over $46 million a year in dues. michigan, just one state. nationwide, we're not talking about public employee unions yet. let's do so, nationwide government employee unions collect, are you ready for this number? that is taxpayer money, going in the form of wes to the government class, if you will, public employees receiving and paying $14 billion in dues alone. that is what is at stake here. this is not just about money, it is not just about politics, it is about both. the right to power sought by organized labor. where does that money go? i have to tell you it goes straight to the president's party, the democratic party, during this election cycle, public system or unions and their afilliated packs gave of their millions and millions of dollars to the democrats, the demes received from those unions, think about this one. 93% went to the democratic party. 93%. notopoly that, unions made up a large part of the democratic ground both o operation on all , local, state an
in michigan would lose. that number is over $46 million a year in dues. michigan, just one state. nationwide, we're not talking about public employee unions yet. let's do so, nationwide government employee unions collect, are you ready for this number? that is taxpayer money, going in the form of wes to the government class, if you will, public employees receiving and paying $14 billion in dues alone. that is what is at stake here. this is not just about money, it is not just about politics, it...
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"michigan passes what you make of this? guest: it is a blow to working people all across the country. when you look at where unions have been successful, wages are higher. unions are responsible for lifting the american people into the middle class. through collective bargaining, sustaining and making sure people are in a decent wage. i think the president said it well. it's not an opportunity -- it is an opportunity for people to earn less when you have legislation like this. interesting how michigan moved along this line. i think there will be a backlash. once people think this through, they will fundamentally begin to realize it is important. host: pennsylvania, democratic line, joe. you are on with congressman john larson. caller: i agree with what the congressman started off saying. not talking about the fiscal cliff but about jobs. this is what you don't hear on any of the major media, especially fox. just the fiscal cliff all day long. and don't raise taxes on the wealthy or corporations. the corporations in this cou
"michigan passes what you make of this? guest: it is a blow to working people all across the country. when you look at where unions have been successful, wages are higher. unions are responsible for lifting the american people into the middle class. through collective bargaining, sustaining and making sure people are in a decent wage. i think the president said it well. it's not an opportunity -- it is an opportunity for people to earn less when you have legislation like this. interesting...